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#9029 Lazy Scheduling Plugin

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Latest post by nicholas on Saturday, 03 September 2011 07:14 CDT

jimbrooking
Mandatory information about my setup:

Have I read the related troubleshooter articles above before posting (which pages?)? yes
Have I searched the forum before posting? yes
Have I read the documentation before posting (which pages?)? No
Joomla! version: 1.7.0
PHP version: 5.2.17
MySQL version: 5.1.58
Host: hostmonster.com
Akeeba Backup version: 3.3.3

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Description of my issue:
I am trying to activate the Lazy Scheduling plugin. When I click it in the Joomla Plugins manager it does not open and its status immediately changes to Locked.

The plugin is enabled, but I notice its type is blank.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

(I know you are on vacation now -- this is not an urgent issue.)

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager
Hi Jim,

The Lazy Scheduling plugin was deprecated as of Akeeba Backup 3.2.5 and completely removed since Akeeba Backup 3.3.a1. The reason is that it was not performing consistently and fixing it on one host would render it unusable on the other, in a magnificent case of Catch-22. Therefore, I preferred to remove it altogether than to knowingly publish software which doesn't work on many hosts. As an alternative, you can set up a CRON job or use Remote CLI on a local machine or a different server to backup your site automatically.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

Chacapamac
This is extremly sad at it was for me the crown of Akkeba backup.
This plugin work perfectly for me so far.

I have many sites to backup and that will impact a lot on the usability of Akeeba Backup.

I think you should leave it (at least for the people that have no problem with it... and advertise it as such.

You will probably have a lot of complaint about this one...

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager
I have a better (and MUCH more reliable) alternative for you, guys. We worked with Webcron.org, letting them know how our software works, they ironed out some issues they had which conflicted with our software and now their awesome web CRON service supports Akeeba Backup's front-end backup -what you see in the "Automating your backup" section of our documentation- without a hitch.

You can get about one thousand (not a typo, 1000) scheduled backup runs for just 1 Euro. With twice-daily backups -which are much more than enough for virtually any kind of site- this means that you will only spend 0.73 Euros per year to backup your site. That's dirt cheap, considering that you also get an email telling you if the backup worked and it's a real scheduled service which always works, not a half-baked solution which may or may not work. If anyone can't spend 0.73 EUR per year to secure his site, what more can I do? :D

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

Chacapamac
I’m trying a cron with bluehost to see if it work...
Should I have difficulties, I really follow your infos?

http://webcron.org/ You wright this is dirt cheap...
The only thing that bother me it’s because it’s not an integrated solution (your backup depend on this to work) compare to the plugin or host cron.

jimbrooking
I have activated a cron job to use Akeeba Backup on my site. The cron job ran last night. The cron directive was
/ramdisk/bin/php5-cli /home1/fearrin1/public_html/administrator/components/com_akeeba/backup.php -profile=1


This seems to duplicate the model in the Akeeba Backup Help mesage and on-line documentation.

When it tried to run the directive it got an error message which was mailed to me:
Could not open input file: /home1/fearrin1/public_html/administrator/components/com_akeeba/backup.php

Sure enough, when I opened my site's cPanel file manager, the backup.php file was not in the specified directory, or anywhere else, that I could see. Did it move somewhere? Why isn't it where the manual says it is?

Thanks.

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager
As mentioned in the documentation,the native CRON scripts (backup.php and altbackup.php) are only available in Akeeba Backup Professional, the paid version of our software. Akeeba Backup Core, the free version you already have, includes the front-end backup feature which can be used in conjuction with your host's CRON feature to automate the backup. We have full instructions about that, just one chapter before the documentation on backup.php. You can find that documentation on-line, along with instructions to use the front-end backup feture with CRON, at https://www.akeebabackup.com/documentation/akeeba-backup-documentation/automating-your-backup.html#frontend-backup

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

nicholas
Akeeba Staff
Manager
Ah, Chaco, I forgot to reply to you. Sorry! If you follow all info on the link I pasted on the post above, you should haven problems.

Webcron.org is our plan B, in case your host does not support CRON jobs. This was supposed to be the only use case of the Lazy Scheduling plugin; it was supposed to be a Plan B in case your host did not supper CRON and you wanted to automate your backups. However, it never worked quite right and it was impossible to make it work, except on the hosts which did not need it to automate the backups. Catch-22. This is why I killed it and I'm now giving you the alternative with webcron.org :)

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

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