Akeeba Backup for Joomla!

Sunday, 29 January 2012 03:19 CST

DavidBoggitt

Mandatory information about my setup:

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Joomla! version: 1.5.25
PHP version: 5.3.9
MySQL version: 5.1.56
Host: Rochen
Akeeba Backup version: 3.3.13

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Description of my issue:
Hi,

I noticed the recent hotfix on the JED, so I downloaded 3.3.13 and installed it (rather than upgrading) on several 1.7.4 site. This worked perfectly.

However, when I installed on a J1.5.25 site, it appeared to install perfectly (the usual notices came up), but when I then clicked again on Akeeba Backup, I got a white screen. Turning Error Reporting up to maximum simply gave:

Notice: Trying to get property of non-object in ../plugins/system/nnframework/helpers/parameters.php on line 106

This I guess is from the NoNumber! extensions and I'm not sure would cause Akeeba not to load.

Not quite sure where to go from here. I have tried uninstalling (which seemed to go fine) and then reinstalling but the same issue persists.

Many thanks,

Dave.

Sunday, 29 January 2012 03:22 CST

DavidBoggitt

Extra Note:
Reinstalling 3.3.12 worked fine, if this helps.

Sunday, 29 January 2012 03:23 CST

nicholas

Please try re-downloading and re-installing the package. The first 13 people to download the package got a broken version which doesn't work on Joomla! 1.5. The one which is on-line right now works fine.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

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Sunday, 29 January 2012 03:23 CST

nicholas

Hm, I just realised, 3.3.13, 13 people downloading it... Talking about unlucky 13!

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
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Sunday, 29 January 2012 03:24 CST

DavidBoggitt

:-)

Will the version I installed be ok on the 1.7.4 sites?

Sunday, 29 January 2012 03:34 CST

nicholas

Yes, of course. The problem was caused due to a missing bail-out if-block. In order to support Joomla! 1.7/2.5 extensions updater code, the Professional release has to go on and modify the update site record directly in the database. However, this is not possible on Joomla! 1.5 (which doesn't use this feature) and causes the error. The if-block which was missing detects the Joomla! version and doesn't run this code on Joomla! 1.5 sites.

Which brings me to my next point. Right now I'm trying to test all of my software on Joomla! 1.5.25, 1.7.4, 2.5.0, on PHP 5.2 and 5.3, on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux hosts. If you're counting this is 3*2*3 = 18 configurations. This has led to never doing full testing on all platforms, as it would take forever. The longer I test, the more support requests I receive, so the less time I have to test and even more support requests I receive, accentuating the problem to unfathomable proportions. So, starting with the next version of my software, I'm dropping support for anything except Joomla! 2.5. It's either that, or stop developing all of my software except Akeeba Backup and Kickstart.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

Sunday, 29 January 2012 03:40 CST

DavidBoggitt

Nicholas,

I completely understand your point of view!

I do wonder though whether it might be possible to keep support going for 1.7.4 for a while? The reason is, is that I (like many other users I suspect) am keen to upgrade my 1.7.4 sites to 2.5.0 but I can't until the site extensions are upgraded too. All the problem forum posts I've read about upgrading point to this (unsurprisingly) as the main cause of failure.

There is bound to be some (but not much, hopefully..) delay with developers updating their extensions and then at some point in time when many users will (or can) upgrade then you can drop support for 1.7.4.

You are the boss though, of course :)

Best wishes,

Dave.

Sunday, 29 January 2012 03:46 CST

nicholas

Hi Dave,

Joomla! 1.7.4 and 2.5.0/2.5.1 do not have many differences from an API point of view. The only backwards incompatible change was a change in the Javascript which prompted the release of the (broken) Akeeba Backup 3.3.12, but has now been accepted as a bug and a fixed Joomla! 2.5.1 is scheduled for Tuesday. Oh, the joys!

So, even though I will be only officially supporting Joomla! 2.5, I don't expect anything to break in 1.7. I can't vouch for Joomla! 1.5 support though. I'm eager to drop it, as it's becoming a huge bottleneck in implementing new features in my software. 1.5 and 2.5 are a universe apart.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

Sunday, 29 January 2012 04:10 CST

DavidBoggitt

That's interesting to know, thanks! I don't think anyone would blame you for dropping 1.5, especially as long as there's a version working for 1.5 so people can backup/restore their sites!

Best wishes,

Dave.

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