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#9877 admintools with new 1.6.3 joomla

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Latest post by nicholas on Friday, 13 May 2011 01:24 CDT

Thursday, 12 May 2011 03:41 CDT

user33573
Mandatory information about my setup:

Have I searched the forum before posting? Yes
Have I read the Troubleshooting Wizard before posting? Yes
Have I read the documentation before posting? Yes
Joomla! version: 1.6.3
PHP version: 5.2.17
MySQL version: (unknown)
Host: godaddy.com
Admin Tools Professional version: 2.0.5


Description of my issue:

My site was working perfectly up until a few days ago. I was getting an 'internal server error' and couldn't access any part of my site. I deleted the .htaccess file, and was then able to access the backend part of my site. However, only the index page was working on the front end. I replaced the old access file with the one that came with Joomla 1.6.3.

I turned off options in the htaccess maker in AdminTools. However, when I try to turn on any option of htaccess maker, I get an 'internal server error' immediately. My whole site stops working. The only way I can get my site to work is with the htaccess file that came with the Joomla 1.6.3 upgrade. I also have to unpublish all my menus and then publish them again to get them to work.

Do you know what is going on? I'd really like to use AdminTools, as I was before. What happened? And what should I do?

Thank you.

Thursday, 12 May 2011 04:57 CDT

slaes
if everything was working fine and now its not, in which case you didnt change anything, godaddy is definateley your issue which needs more info. Is it a server 500 error? Not much more to say about godaddy.

Joomla 1.6 is also quiet problamatic, not really worth the time. If possible look at going back to 1.5, sounds stupid i know, but its just a nightmare which will constantly bite you.

Thursday, 12 May 2011 05:03 CDT

nicholas
The Joomla! version is most likely irrelevant to this issue. GoDaddy is just a nightmare. Unfortuantely, you'll ahve to go through the scenic route to make your site work.

Start by disabling everything in the .htaccess Maker, then Save and Create .htaccess. Wait for 10-30 minutes until GoDaddy parses the .htaccess file (unlike other servers which take 0.1 seconds, GoDaddy takes 10-30 minutes to apply the file's settings...). Your site should work fine.

Now start enabling features in the .htaccess Maker one-by-one, saving and creating the .htaccess file each time. Each time you have to wait for those stupid 10-30 minutes until the crapload servers of GoDaddy finally decide that they should apply those settings. If something breaks, you know which option isn't compatible with your host and should be disabled. In order to disable it you have to delete the .htaccess file, wait for those (argh!) 10-30 minutes, go back to .htaccess Maker, disable the last feature you enabled and continue.

On a normal server (read: anything except GoDaddy) the whole process takes 2 hours at most and you can reuse the same configuration to other sites hosted on the same server. On GoDaddy, "thanks" to their impossible server setup, it might take you 3-5 days to do that. If you feel, like me, that GoDaddy's policy on .htaccess sucks big time I would recommend migrating to a proper hosting environment. GoDaddy's hosting is good if you have a static HTML site but for anything else it just sucks big time. The more you use it, the more you'll understand why. Components won't install, newer software releases won't work, backups will consistently fail... the works.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

Thursday, 12 May 2011 05:14 CDT

slaes
ded box - 5 minutes
shared - half hour
godaddy - 5 days

lol, thats funny man. I would neck myself if i had to dev on godaddy, under those conditions.

Thursday, 12 May 2011 13:47 CDT

nicholas
Amen to that!

One time I took a freelancing project on transferring a site between hosts. Stupidly enough, I didn't ask what the target host is. It turned out to be GoDaddy. Having to fix .htaccess issues on GoDaddy turned a 10 minute job into a 4 hour ordeal - and just think that I Knew What I Was Doing(tm). Unfortunately, the job was paid in advance, so I had to complete it and effectively lose money. Argh!

Needless to say, if anyone asks me about moving a site to GoDaddy I immediately give them a coupon code for Rochen (Use "akeeba" at checkout for a 20% discount off your first invoice). I'd rather poke around a hundred Rochen hosted sites than one GoDaddy hosted site.

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:22 CDT

user33573
thank you for the advice! i hadn't realized godaddy was such a headache.

nicholas, i've tried doing what you said.. disabling everything in htaccess maker, but when i click the submit button it goes straight to the internal error 500.

i followed the instructions you mentioned when i first launched the site and i had no problems. i hadn't changed anything on the website since then, and it suddenly stopped working last week.

i will look into new hosting! thank you again

Thursday, 12 May 2011 23:33 CDT

slaes

Try running the fix file permissions within admin tools, then try the .htaccess maker again.

If that does not help, you issue is without doubt, godaddy. The fact that everything was fine, and you did nothing whatsoever and the everything broke says enough. Most likely they have update some things on the box which are throwing server 500.

Let us know how you go when you try the permissions, just curious to know something, long shot but possible.

Friday, 13 May 2011 01:24 CDT

nicholas
When you disable all .htaccess Maker features the resulting .htaccess is the same as the stock Joomla! .htaccess file. I guess GoDaddy did something funky on their servers, again :(

Nicholas K. Dionysopoulos

Lead Developer and Director

🇬🇷Greek: native 🇬🇧English: excellent 🇫🇷French: basic • 🕐 My time zone is Europe / Athens
Please keep in mind my timezone and cultural differences when reading my replies. Thank you!

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